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shouldnt federal income taxes be illegal......?

since there is no law stating this and its against our constitutional right???

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  1. It is immoral, but when you govern, you make the laws, and legalize what you want.
  2. Yes. For more information on this, check out the DVD 'America: Freedom to Facism'. It's a Michael Moore style documentary. A man goes in search of the truth behind this 'urban legend'. The IRS refuses to show him the law that requires Americans to pay income tax, and he finds out many other things as well. It's a tad bit low budget, but very informative.
  3. Amendment 16: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." The Constitution permits an income tax. Congress has delegated its authority, by means of Title 26 of the United States Code, for collecting this tax to the IRS. There IS a "law stating this" and it IS provided for in the Constitution.
  4. It would've been against your constitutional rights if income tax existed prior to the 16th amendment. However, the constitution was amended prior to income tax being implemented so though it is against the wishes of the founding fathers it is quite legal.
  5. The 16th Amendment made federal income taxes lawful and Constitutional.
  6. Income tax is legal --- as pointed out by the two answerers who mentioned the 16th amendment. What you should be doing is investigating the banking laws --- hint hint.
  7. We should go to a sales tax like Mike Huckabee talked about. That way everyone would have to pay their fair share.even the drug dealers would pay taxes. Do you think that the people that own businesses pay their country club bills with "after tax " money. Not hardly, They pay for entertainment with pretaxed dollars. Sales tax is the only fair way. It would do away with most of the lobbyists, how great would that be...
  8. Somebody has to pay for our reservist banking system. It may as well be us. Do you realize that almost 4 month out of the year you are working to pay off just the interest of the debt the government has incurred by adopting a Reservist Banking system. Just the interest. A private corporation (the federal reserve) is getting 33% of your money. That should be illegal.
  9. Yes, I agree we pay too much in taxes. But think about what wouldn't get paid if there wasn't a standard tax rate: - police, fire, and emergency services - education - the military and defense - scientific advancement and research As soon as there's no money to come in to start paying for these things, people would be complaining that the services aren't provided! The thing to remember is that the federal government is NOT an entity to itself. It is part of America like you and I. It is made up of people that are our fellow citizens and run with money from all of our hard work. This is *not* a situation where the poor peasants are working to support the feudal lord and they're demanding more and more. Every bit that you put in, you will get something back in return.
  10. First, there is a law concerning income taxes. It is the Internal Revenue Code which was proposed in the House of Representatives, passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by a President, just like it is supposed to be. It is codified in the U.S. Code as Title 26. Second, the Constitution clearly gives Congress the power to lay and collect taxes. Article 1, Section 8 states, in part, "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes,..." In Article 1, Section 9 it states, "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken." This is where the argument starts. Most economists and most people consider income taxes as direct taxes. However, in a Constitutional sense, income taxes have always been indirect. In fact, the first income tax in the U.S. was passed in 1861. Direct taxes are "poll" or head taxes and taxes on land. The Supreme Court in various decisions had found early income tax laws constitutional. In 1895, the Supreme Court in Pollock vs. Farmer's Loan and Trust, the court discussed the constitutionality of the income tax law at the time, since it taxed income from rental property. The court decided that taxes on income from rental property was similar to taxing the property itself and therefore a direct tax. The way the income tax law was written at the time, the tax on rental income could not be separated from the income tax on wages and therefore the entire income tax was declared unconstitutional. in response to this decision and because funding the government completely by excises, tariffs and duties is unfeasible, Congress proposed the 16th amendment to the Constitution. The 16th amendment was passed by Congress in 1909. It was ratified by the required amount of states in 1913. Some people argue that it wasn't properly ratified. The Supreme Court has repeatedly rejected this argument. Anyway, it is now a part of the Constitution and will take another Constitutional amendment to repeal it. The 16th amendment removes the requirement that income taxes (if they are considered direct taxes) from being apportioned among the states as required by Article 1, Section 9. So, to answer your question, income taxes are not illegal. There is a law concerning income taxes and even if it was a constitutional right (it wasn't), the citizens of the U.S. in 1913 gave that right away. BTW, the Federal Reserve is NOT a private organization. It is setup under Title 12, Chapter 3 of the U.S. Code. It is considered similar to a private organization for U.S. Tort law, so it can be sued, however, for most other instances, it is considered a government entity. Also, the Federal Reserve only holds about $800 billion of the $8.9 trillion of the U.S. Government debt. The interest the Federal Reserve collects on that $800 billion less a small amount for operating expenses is REQUIRED BY LAW to be returned to the U.S. Treasury. This can plainly be seen on the INDEPENDENTLY AUDITED financial statements of the Federal Reserve which are part of the ANNUAL REPORTS to Congress. http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/rptcongress/annual06/pdf/audits.pdf In 2006, the Federal Reserve collected approximately $36.5 billion in interest on U.S. Government securities. The Federal Reserve paid approximately $29.1 billion to the U.S. Treasury.
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