Income taxes a law or a hoax?
1. in the constitution it says you do not have to incriminate yourself however it is illegal not to file income tax return and to lie on one, and you can go to to jail based on what you put down. (unconstitutional) 2. congress nor senate will not show us the law witch requires me to pay income taxes. We have asks many times however they will not show us the law. the constitution says we have the right to see the law witch means maybe there is no law. (unconstitutional) 3. the supreme court has said that the 16 Amendment granted congress no new authority to tax the americian public and if the supream court says it is unconstitutional it is (unconstitutional) for gomanyes562 1. if i say or right something and it can jail me i call it a testimony 2. since when does the Internal Revenue Code over rule the supream court 3. you may have a point there but this is yahoo answers not yahoo attack the conspiracy theorist i mean how did you become a top contributer
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- Try to refuse to pay your income taxes and see what a hoax it is. 8^) All your points may or may not be true, but they are moot, they are academic. You have to pay your taxes or they will take them out of your bank account, or you will go to jail. You even have to have them withheld from your paycheck, or pay quarterly estimates. It's just how it is. Even Ron Paul can't change it.
- I believe that income taxes are an illegal tax. I still pay them because I do not have enough money to fight it. Ironic huh. I would be okay paying some kind of income tax if I felt it went to the right places instead of going to a war I don't support, and giving other countries money for no good reason. If the money went to help fellow americans who are in trouble get health care, homes and food.
- If Ron Paul is president he CAN change it and income tax is illegal theres no constitutional basis for it or any law about it. But its here and you will be in trouble for not doing it.
- Well, its an issue that should be addressed although it may never be. I hope someone has the fortitude to challenge the amendment as well as some of the US Code. But as the other answerer said. It may be a vaporous law but ignore it and you will regret it. I talked to a couple who didnt pay taxes for like 8 years as they were on this bandwagon of it being unconstitutional and the amendment not legally ratified and the code not being specific to the individual. Well they got the pleasure of paying about 20k dollars in late payments and interest each. They told me despite what you hear, despite what you know, dont just not pay them you will regret it.
- You make absolutely no sense. 1. the bill of rights says that you cannot be forced to testify against yourself in court. Your tax return is not testimony. 2. It's called the Internal Revenue Code. Look it up. 3. 16th amendment simply removed the condition of tax proportionality among states. Congress already had tax authority under the commerce clause, they just couldn't have an income tax until this requirement was removed. I'm sick of you conspiracy theorists.
- There is a law concerning income taxes. I'll take each of your points in turn. 1. The 5th amendment states, "No person... shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Notice that it says CRIMINAL CASE. That is the key. An income tax return is a civil matter and the 5th amendment does not apply. A little later in the amendment the words, "nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW". Since the income tax is covered in a law and income tax returns or statements are required by that law, that is due process. 2. Typical tax protester nonsense. The income tax laws are codified in Title 26 U.S.C. You can read it for yourself at http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/ or at http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title26/title26.html Title 26 of the U.S. Code is PRIMA FACIE law and is perfectly valid. The actual laws or positive laws passed by Congress can be found in the U.S. Statutes at Large. You can read them for yourself at most Federal Depository Libraries. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/libraries.html 3. Yes, the Supreme Court did say that the 16th amendment granted Congress "no new power" to tax, but you didn't read the entire statement from the Supreme Court. The case is STANTON v. BALTIC MINING CO, 240 U.S. 103 (1916). The following is what the court said, [QUOTE] that by the previous ruling it was settled that the provisions of the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, but simply prohibited the previous complete and plenary power of income taxation possessed by Congress from the beginning from being taken out of the category of indirect taxation to which it inherently belonged [END QUOTE] Notice what the Supreme Court said, "...previous complete and plenary power of income taxation possessed by Congress FROM THE BEGINNING...". That is because income taxes are INDIRECT taxes in a Constitutional sense and Congress has ALWAYS had the power to impose indirect taxes. The 16th amendment did nothing other than CLARIFY that income taxes do not have to be apportioned. Read the decision for yourself at http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=240&page=103 Before you claim it, the 16th amendment was properly ratified and the courts have never claimed that it wasn't. In either case, the 16th amendment is now a part of the Constitution and it will take another amendment to be ratified in order to repeal it. Besides, even if the 16th amendment was repealed, Congress could continue to impose an income tax since the Stanton case correctly states Congress has that power. BTW, income taxes in the U.S. predate the 16th amendment. An income tax law was considered in 1815, but Congress decided they didn't need the revenue at the time. The first income tax in the U.S. was enacted in 1861. Congress allowed the law to lapse in 1872. In 1880, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the income tax law in Springer v. United States, 102 U.S. 586 (1880)
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